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10 Reasons to Choose Indian Motorcycles Over Harley-Davidson (And 5 Reasons to Think Twice)

Indian vs Harley-Davidson — this old rivalry has been the subject of debate at bike meets, and for potential buyers, a dilemma of preferences and tastes. It’s like choosing between beaches or mountains, iPhones or Androids, and tea or coffee. Many may have clear preferences, but when you’re a lover of two wheels, the choice can sometimes be difficult.

Both Indian and Harley-Davidson make terrific motorcycles that are more alike than dissimilar. Still, they offer a distinct flavor. One is sleek and snazzy, while the other is an old-school charmer. And before you jump on the brother wagon with a Harley or take the road less traveled on an Indian, let’s look at what makes Indian better than Harley-Davidson (and what doesn’t).

In order to give you the most up-to-date and accurate information possible, the data used to compile this article was sourced from the manufacturers and authoritative sources.

10 Reasons to Choose Indian Motorcycles Over Harley-Davidson (And 5 Reasons to Think Twice)

Indian Motorcycle Company: A Legacy Starting From 1901

Diving deep into the history of America’s first motorcycle brand

1 Why We’d Pick Indian: Better Performance Than Harley-Davidson

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Indian Motorcycle

Let’s start by looking at one of Indian’s biggest strengths—performance. Look at the spec sheets, and you’ll quickly see a stark difference between Indian and Harley-Davidson — Indian motorcycles tend to be more powerful. It’s not just about the horsepower here, but about how much better Indian engines are in terms of technology and refinement, too.

Since its rebirth, Indian has focused on producing modern motorcycles while honoring its historical legacy. As such, the engines are typically short-stroke, high-revving with a lighter clutch pull. While Harley-Davidson has stepped up with liquid-cooled, high-revving engines like the Revolution Max 1250T, the brand still predominantly relies on traditional air-cooled V-twins that prioritize character over outright performance.

Indian PowerPlus vs Harley-Davidson Milwaukee Eight 117 Performance

 

DetailsIndian PowerPlus (Indian Challenger)Harley-Davidson Milwaukee Eight 117 (Harley-Davidson Street Glide)
Displacement1,769cc1,923cc
Power122 HP @ 5,500 RPM105 HP @ 4,600 RPM
Torque128 LB-FT @ 3,800 RPM130 LB-FT @ 3,250 RPM
Red Line6,500 RPM5,500 RPM
Architecture60-degree V-twin, liquid-cooled45-degree V-twin, liquid-cooled cylinder heads
Top Speed125 MPH110 MPH


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Why We Won’t: Raw Character And Traditional Charm

Rider on a 2019 Harley-Davidson Breakout
Harley-Davidson

When you think of high-revving, exciting motorcycles, cruisers don’t usually come to mind. Their appeal lies in their low-end torque, character, and relaxed riding experience. This is what works in Harley-Davidson’s favor, as it keeps its focus on character and nostalgia over performance. The iconic potato-potato-potato exhaust note has earned such a dedicated following for a reason.

This focus on tradition has sometimes created problems for Harley-Davidson, though. Its core customer base is aging, and younger riders don’t often pick old-school, low-revving V-twin rumblers. And if you’re among the outliers (like us) who still enjoy the classic cruiser style, Indian bikes may not be for you, as they don’t have the same character. Ultimately, it comes down to personal preference.

3 Why We’d Pick: Friendlier On Your Body Than A Harley

2024 Indian Challenger Elite cruising on the highway
Indian Motorcycle

One of the biggest criticisms of Harley-Davidson motorcycles, especially its non-touring models, is that they are not so comfortable for long rides. Their traditional design often includes a stiffer, short-stroke suspension that transfers road undulations straight to your back. The traditional air-cooled V-twins also tend to cook your legs medium rare in warm weather.

On the other hand, Indian motorcycles tend to be much more comfortable. Yes, its low-slung cruisers are still not as cozy as proper tourers, but they are noticeably friendlier on your back, thanks to their modern suspension setup. Even the liquid-cooled engines don’t roast your thighs as much unless you are stuck in traffic. For the long way around, Indian is the clear choice

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4 Why We Won’t: Fewer Dealerships Across The States

No. Of Harley-Davidson Dealerships: Over 1,400 Globally

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American Motorcycle Trading Co.

Harley-Davidson has been pumping out motorcycles for over a century, and as a result, it has scattered its dealerships all around the world. Meanwhile, Indian, having lost over 60 years while its marque lay dormant, hasn’t reached the same scale. So, potential buyers who don’t live close to an Indian dealership often steer clear of the brand. For many, the convenience of having a dealership close by is a must, should the bike face any problems.

That’s not to say you should avoid Indian bikes completely, though. Modern motorcycle design has come a long way, and Indian bikes are generally reliable. It’s also not hard to find a good mechanic close to your home. What you might miss, though, is the almost religious ritual of visiting the dealership often for a cup of coffee and meeting other enthusiasts — something Harley-Davidson owners often do.

5 Why We’d Pick: Contemporary Design With A Nod To Heritage

2024 Indian FTR Sport static profile shot
Indian Motorcycle

Harley-Davidson motorcycles often feel like they belong to a different era. While they do come with modern features, their design remains steeped in nostalgia and tradition. Meanwhile, Indian motorcycles offer a more modern retro approach. They take inspiration from their history but wrap it in contemporary design — Indian bikes blend in with sleek modern motorcycles.

A perfect example is the Indian FTR 1200. This modern naked with a trellis frame and a punchy engine draws inspiration from flat trackers of yesteryears. It’s an exercise in cohesive design and symmetry, with each element complementing the other, making it feel modern rather than simply an updated classic. This attention to detail is why we often drool over Indian motorcycles instead of Harley-Davidsons.

Indian FTR 1200 Sport Design Highlights

Flat tracker-inspired design with a sporty and aggressive stance

Clean, minimal lines that either complement or correspond to each other

Distinct fuel tank that not only adds flair but also improves the riding experience

Cohesive design elements across the bike

Exposed frame, rear shock, and dual exhausts add visual drama

6 Why We Won’t: Not Much Of An Aftermarket

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Roland Sands

Motorcycles can look as pretty as they can right from the factory floor, but that’s not going to stop us from customizing them. Even if it’s something as simple as slapping on an aftermarket exhaust and colorful brake levers, customizing is a part of the ownership experience. This is where Indian loses out to Harley-Davidson, which has had decades to develop an aftermarket.

On the flip side, you can easily stumble upon Harley-Davidson parts in the most unexpected places. Remember, Harley-Davidson has been continuously producing motorcycles for over a century and has inspired a rich aftermarket around it. So much so that many Harleys have become some of the most customizable motorcycles on the market. You can turn an old rattly Sportster 883 into your heart’s desire without digging too deep for farkles.

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7 Why We’d Pick: Brings Out The Hipster In Us

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One of the allures of owning limited edition motorcycles is their uniqueness — you won’t find multiple examples of it at your local bike meet. Let’s not forget, that these motorcycles come with a massive price tag, and Indian offers an alternative to it. They let you stand out without breaking the bank. Unlike Harley-Davidson, Indian bikes are relatively rare, which adds to their allure. Sure, this rarity might not matter to every rider, but who wouldn’t want to own something so distinctive?

8 Why We Won’t: HOGs Outnumber Indian Motorcycle Riders

No. Of HOG Members: 1,000,000+

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Indian, as old as the marque may be, is still a relatively new brand, and as we mentioned earlier, it doesn’t have many buyers. So, don’t expect to be a part of the larger community the moment you roll your Indian off the showroom floor. Yes, there’s the Indian Motorcycle Riders (IMR) club, but it doesn’t hold a spark plug to the Harley Owners Group, which has over a million members!

Joining sponsored communities isn’t your only option; there are also independent motorcycle clubs out there. Just don’t expect a warm welcome in some of them. Indian is seen as the new money upstart to Harley-Davidson’s old guard, and many purist clubs are dismissive of Indian riders. To be honest, it’s not worth joining such unwelcoming clubs, anyway, but your options will be limited if you want to be a part of the community.

9 Why We’d Pick: To Support The Underdogs

Indian FTR750 Wheelie
Indian

Indian is the underdog in the cruiser world. Although it doesn’t yet have the same appeal as its main American rival, it has made impressive strides since its revival under Polaris. The parent company, run by enthusiasts, has successfully revived Indian and introduced a lineup of awesome motorcycles.

Indian motorcycles are lively, modern, and tech-laden. Models like the Indian Scout and Chief have won our hearts with their handling and riding dynamics, proving that India is not just catching up, but it’s already there — it has its identity in the market. It may not be perfect, but it’s got more than enough credentials to earn our support. Sometimes, you can’t help but root for the underdog!

Indian FTR750 Wheelie

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10 Why We Won’t: Over 60 Years Of Missing History!

Harley-Davidson Founding Year: 1903

1903 Harley-Davidson Serial Number One
Dmitry Pavlovsky

Rooting for the underdog is one thing, but if you want a slice of the heritage pie, you won’t find much in the Indian bakery. There’s a 60-year lapse in the brand’s history, ever since the original Springfield factory ceased production in 1953. For many purists, the revived Indian brand is not the same anymore — it lacks the authenticity of the classic Indian brand.

Meanwhile, Harley-Davidson is as sturdy as an oak in American automotive history. Since 1903, it has been pumping bikes out of its Milwaukee factory. And while it has come close to ceasing production a few times — AMF era, anyone? — it has managed to stay afloat. Today, it remains perhaps the most recognizable motorcycle manufacturer globally, with a cult following in many countries. If you want to experience this genuine heritage, an Indian will never satisfy you.

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Powersports Lenders Innovate Technology and Buyer Programs

Powersport lenders are advancing their technology and buyer programs to enhance the experiences of customers and dealers as we approach 2025.

Concerns regarding affordability have significantly impacted the powersports industry throughout this year, hampering consumer confidence and demand while unveiling market gaps that lenders are striving to fill.

With many consumers holding back on spending, retail sales have declined, promotional efforts have surged, and inventory levels have stagnated across the industry. These challenges underscore the growing need for lenders to provide accessible platforms for consumers and dealers maneuvering through the current market challenges.

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According to an October 7 report from BMO Capital Markets, average powersport sales dipped by 3.6% year-over-year in September.

Year-over-year sales also fell, with powersport sales decreasing by 5.4% in August, 4.6% in July, 3% in June, 3.7% in May, and 0.9% in April, as per BMO’s data.

Despite promotional activities being generally similar to 2023 levels, they are “slightly more aggressive” compared to pre-pandemic efforts, noted BMO.

During the recent PowerSports Finance Summit 2024, industry leaders expressed optimism for the upcoming year, contingent upon further rate cuts by the Federal Reserve and a boost in consumer confidence.

The summit panelists also discussed progress made in enhancing the consumer experience and addressing dealer demands with adequate support.

Focusing on technology

There exists a technological divide in the powersports industry between consumer requirements and lender implementations. Summit lenders emphasized the necessity of adopting technology in critical areas.

“It’s not that the market is transitioning to an entirely digital environment,” Anthony Moses, the global chief strategy and innovation officer at Yamaha Financial Services, mentioned during a panel discussion. “It’s about recognizing that different customer segments are starting to exhibit varying preferences.”

Sheffield Financial, based in Winston-Salem, N.C., is harnessing technology to “supplement” existing consumer services while retaining traditional support, according to Susan Andersson, head of national accounts and senior vice president. “At Sheffield, we offer tech options for those interested, but we still maintain a team of 50 loan processors always available to take calls,” she noted.

Enhancing dealer and consumer interactions

Lenders at this year’s summit are also utilizing prequalification tools to simplify both the shopping and financing experiences for consumers while speeding up funding for dealers.

For example, Sheffield leverages such tools to deliver quicker service to consumers who explore options online before visiting a dealership.

“Customers just need to input their mobile number and the last four digits of their Social Security number,” Andersson explained about the prequalification tool. “The decision is made in seconds, providing that customer with the assurance they are pre-approved as they arrive at the dealership.”

Summit panelists agreed that prequalification tools and QR codes have streamlined the loan process for both consumers and dealers.

“Dealers can utilize [QR codes] in various locations within the dealership, whether on a hang tag or positioned on the equipment,” Andersson noted, adding that some dealers have even employed QR codes as magnets affixed to the equipment. “Our objective is to create an effortless experience for both customers and dealers.”

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Mark Davidson, chief growth officer at Octane, at PowerSports Finance Summit 2024 | Photo/Auto Finance News

Octane’s prequalification tool enhances consumer confidence while meeting dealers’ demands for advanced technology and quicker financing, according to Mark Davidson, co-founder and chief growth officer at the New York City-based lender.

“Customers can receive prequalification whether they are at home or strolling through the showroom,” he remarked. “When they are pre-approved, it boosts their confidence to proceed with the purchase, and dealers appreciate it because it indicates the customer is both motivated and capable of buying.”

Davidson mentioned that Octane is “exploring” the benefits of introducing prequalification in the marine sector after entering the segment in October.

The lender focuses on “engaging customers at their convenience” while providing dealers with the “tools” through hang tags or Instagram ads linked to financing options, stated Jon Vestal, Octane’s head of powersports and outdoor power equipment.

“We consistently seek feedback from OEMs and dealers, and we align our direction based on their needs.” — Jon Vestal, Octane

“Ultimately, we continuously request feedback from OEMs and dealers to ensure our path aligns with their needs.”

Emphasizing customer experience and buyer programs

Lenders at the PowerSports Finance Summit underscored the importance of identifying which traditional processes and buyer programs effectively benefit consumers and which ones are due for modernization.

“We still do not utilize voicemail, ensuring that when customers or dealers call, they connect with a representative immediately,” Sheffield’s Andersson stated.

Harley-Davidson Financial Services (HDFS), for instance, is planning a comprehensive review of all its programs — including those targeting limited credit borrowers and first-time buyers — to identify strategies for boosting motorcycle sales while managing the lender’s risk profile, shared Yordanka Martin, chief risk officer at HDFS.

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From left: Auto Finance News’ Amanda Harris, Chris Garrido of Horsepower Financial Services, Yordanka Martin at Harley Davidson Financial Services, and Scott Schloegel of Motorcycle Industry Council at PowerSports Finance Summit 2024 | Photo/Auto Finance News

HDFS’ efforts to revitalize its existing offerings include plans to expand its Flex Financing program to include certified pre-owned and used motorcycles in 2025.

This decision comes as Harley-Davidson reported a 10% year-over-year decline in North American motorcycle sales, dropping to 24,600 units in Q3, according to an October 24 financial release, primarily attributed to reduced consumer traffic amidst rising interest rates.

Nevertheless, HDFS’ retail finance receivables remained stable year-over-year and quarter-over-quarter at $7 billion in Q3, as per Harley-Davidson’s earnings presentation.

Moses from Yamaha remarked that incentives and financing programs aligning with buyer needs are crucial in fostering brand loyalty across any market.

“How a consumer selects prequalification parallels how they choose a lender,” Moses stated. “Building relationships, ensuring smooth integrations, and facilitating ease-of-use are vital, but ultimately, promotional offers and programs are likely the most decisive factors.”

Yamaha has been proactive in promotional activities this year, joining Polaris and Kawasaki in launching new rebates this October, according to BMO data. Yamaha’s latest offers include a $1,000 rebate on specific model year 2024 ATVs.

Attracting new buyers

While promotional activities remain high, some dealers at the summit indicated that a segment of the market is underserved due to the presence of numerous thin-file and first-time buyers, yet lacking suitable programs tailored for them.

Destination Cycle’s Michael Campbell at PowerSports Finance Summit 2024 | Photo/Auto Finance News

“I don’t understand why we can’t facilitate loans for $7,000 to $8,000 for these younger buyers, as long as they can provide proof of income,” Michael Campbell, sales and finance manager at Destination Cycle in Kerrville, Texas, remarked during the panel discussion.

Implementing a first-time buyer program, he noted, would allow dealers to better serve consumers who are often left out of the market, helping them acquire affordable vehicles while also facilitating the building of their credit profiles.

“We’re not looking to issue a primary loan on a $37,000 motorcycle,” he added.

Adapting to affordability

As conditions improve and demand rises, both dealers and consumers are likely to seek out lenders who demonstrate a commitment to making vital investments.

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Susan Medrano, SVP and general manager of Synchrony Outdoors, at PowerSports Finance Summit 2024 | Photo/Auto Finance News

The Stamford, Conn.-based lender Synchrony continuously seeks ways to streamline the financing process for dealers, as explained by Senior Vice President and General Manager Susan Medrano at the summit.

Their all-in-advance loan application exemplifies the lender’s readiness to adapt, stated Medrano. The application process for powersports and outdoor equipment has been streamlined, reducing required fields from 13 to just three.

“We’re focusing on simplifying the process significantly,” she added.

Synchrony also offers specialized financing solutions for several prominent powersports brands, including Bombardier Recreational Products, Kawasaki, Polaris, and Suzuki.

Looking forward

While it remains uncertain if the powersports industry will witness a notably improved retail landscape in 2025, lenders are diligently developing systems to better serve consumer and dealer demands, irrespective of market conditions. The shared goals of speed and convenience resonate among lenders within the sector.

“From my experience, the relationships between dealers and lenders have likely reached their best state in recent years,” said Destination Cycle’s Campbell, who has been with the dealership since 2017. “Much of this improvement hinges on the relationships being built, whether with mainstream lenders or local credit unions.”

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Johnny Hallyday’s Harley-Davidson Sold to Support Owner’s Retirement

On November 9, a Harley-Davidson previously owned by Johnny Hallyday will be auctioned in Lyon as part of the Epoqu’Auto exhibition focused on vintage vehicles. This 1980s Springer model, a testament to the legendary rocker’s love for motorcycles, is now in the possession of Mickson, a collector and biker from Chauffry in Seine-et-Marne. Mickson acquired this iconic motorcycle in 2014 and has meticulously restored it while preserving its original vintage appearance.

The story of this Harley is deeply intertwined with Johnny Hallyday’s life, as he purchased it in 1982 from Jean Basselin, a close friend who later became his assistant and personal driver. The bike was utilized for public events and filming, notably appearing in the video for the song Diego, free in his head. Now fully restored and valued between 25,000 euros, this motorcycle is already drawing interest from fans and collectors of the Taulier, particularly as Mickson aims to secure a price that will help fund his retirement.

The auction of this iconic motorcycle is stirring considerable excitement. With its timeless design and rich history, it not only signifies a piece of French musical heritage but also embodies Johnny Hallyday’s free-spirited essence.

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American Electric Motorcycle Brands Launch Affordable Models to Attract Riders

American Electric Motorcycle Brands Launch Affordable Models to Attract Riders
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American electric motorcycle brands Zero and LiveWire have independently recognized that the demand for full-sized electric motorcycles is low, and they aren’t making significant sales. As a result, they are focusing on creating smaller, lighter, and more affordable electric scooters that cater to low-speed needs. In a strategic decision, both companies are pursuing distinct paths with more budget-friendly models.

At the current EICMA show in Italy, Harley-Davidson’s LiveWire announced a collaboration with Taiwanese company Kymco to manufacture electric scooters (shown below), while California-based Zero showcased its new XB and XE lightweight trail models designed to take on the Chinese-made Sur-Ron electric dirt bikes (shown above). LiveWire has yet to disclose pricing, but Zero has confirmed plans to introduce six new models over the next two years, each priced under $10,000.

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I’m particularly enthusiastic about the Zero XB and XE models. The XB is priced at an attractive $4,195 and includes a removable 2.4 kWh battery, switchable traction control, and enhanced suspension for enjoyable all-electric trail driving. It reportedly offers 47 miles of trail range. The XE, an upgraded version, features a larger 4.3 kWh battery and a high-resolution TFT display with a range of around 65 miles, retailing at $6,495. Both models promise a thrilling experience at an excellent value in the electric motorcycle sector, with the XB serving as a trail-specific bike and the XE available in full street-legal configuration.

“The new X Line delivers the best performing models in one of the most exciting growth categories from the most trusted electric brand in powersports,” stated Sam Paschel, CEO of Zero Motorcycles. “Our mission from day one has been to revolutionize the two-wheeled transportation industry, and we will stop at nothing to deliver on that promise to our growing global community of riders.”

Meanwhile, the maxi scooters being developed by LiveWire and Kymco are perfectly suited for the current European demand. Kymco aims to introduce a more robust and premium model to the Euro market, while LiveWire seeks a high-volume product to maintain profitable margins. These new scooters will feature LiveWire’s established S2 Arrow powertrain, complemented by Kymco’s Ionex swappable battery system. They are expected to launch globally in 2026, although details on pricing and branding remain undisclosed. Nonetheless, they appear visually appealing.

“The belief and recognition that we could create a class-leading maxi-scooter using our S2 Arrow powertrain has been a constant, KYMCO sharing their expertise has changed belief into reality, and we are excited to commence on this journey with such a globally recognized leader in the category.” – Karim Donnez, CEO LiveWire

The electric two-wheeler market faces challenges at the moment, highlighted by the recent closure of Italian firm Energica. If LiveWire and Zero aspire to thrive long-term, they must continue to innovate with products that resonate with consumer preferences. Both companies are making prudent strides in this direction.

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Kick Sauber Secures Brazilian Driver Gabriel Bortoleto for 2025 Season

Kick Sauber has made an announcement regarding the current F2 frontrunner Gabriel Bortoleto, who will be joining the team on a multi-year contract alongside Nico Hülkenberg. This news coincided with the decision to not retain the existing drivers—Valtteri Bottas and Zhou Guanyu—after a challenging season that has seen them earn no points over the course of 21 races.

This decision has led to Bottas and Zhou no longer having seats for the 2025 season.

The announcement marks the conclusion of a three-year relationship between Bottas and Zhou with Sauber. Reports suggest that Bottas is contemplating a reserve role with either Mercedes or Audi for 2026; however, Zhou’s future remains uncertain.

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Bottas later reflected on his exit as a difficult moment and noted that conversations in recent months indicated that the project could not progress further with him on board. He described his time with Sauber as a significant and memorable chapter in his career.

Meanwhile, Bottas expressed his gratitude on social media, thanking everyone for the past three years and wishing all the best for the future of Kick Sauber.